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  • Magnum in Germany

    Hi!

    I'm Sebastian from Germany and want to buy a '78 Dodge Magnum. This is it:

    https://suchen.mobile.de/auto-insera...ction=parkItem

    Please excuse me, my english isn't perfect.
    I have some questions as it is my first Mopar:


    Where are the weak spots to look for? Any bad rust and suspension problems?

    Which parts are interchangeable with other B-Bodies?
    I know, the doors are different but are the Fenders and Quarters the same as Charger and Cordoba?

    What are the differences to the '79 Magnum? (Except the rear lights and other motor options)
    Why is the the fuel tank size reduced on '79 models?

    Are the wheels in the offer Magnum wheels? I've never seen a picture of another Magnum with these type of wheels? Or they just standard without the wheel covers? If it's so, then what are these hubcaps that look like the GT hubcaps?
    What is the PCD and how big is the center bore? 5 x 4 1/2" ?

  • #2
    Link gives me error
    Not a whole lot of body parts interchange
    Only differences between 78-79 that I've noticed are no 400cid, shifter knob and tail lights
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    • #3
      Hm, the links works over here.
      Since there are only 2 pictures and not much text, i'll post the images here:

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      Only useful information in the offer is that it was first registered in 08/1978, has new headliner and refurbed seats and will be sold for 5500 . Thats all.
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      • #4
        Welcome aboard Hemiescort.

        Link is working for me. Weak spots for rust...for a car this age, just about any place is worth looking over for rust. Inspect carefully.

        It looks in the photos like the quarters are rusty. You should also check the bottoms of the doors, and behind the front tires on the front fenders. Look at the "dutchman panel" closely (the panel between the bottom of the back glass and the trunk lid). Water tends to run down the glass, under the chrome trim, and creep under the vinyl top, causing rust. Speaking of the vinyl top, look for blisters and bumps under the vinyl, indicating rust.

        While we are at the rear of the car, let's check inside the trunk. Remove the carpet. While a very light amount of surface rust is not unusual, anything heavy / scaly is a concern. Water leaking in from the trunk seal or through holes in the dutchman panel can rust the trunk floor. As a uni-body vehicle, the trunk floor is the top of the box frame in that area. The rear of the leaf springs also anchor in this area. Decay of the floor can cause the leaf spring to punch through the trunk floor as the body collapses down over them.

        Now lets move up front, under the hood. You want to look at the area where the steel stamping that makes up the cowl is layered and welded over the steel that makes up the fire wall / front of dash. This area can trap water and rust, and you will see that rust blistering through. After inspection, if the owner will allow you to run a hose over the car, and around the windshield, see if you find water dripping inside, from up under the dash.

        Crawl under the car, or even better, get the car on a lift. At the front of the car, we're looking at the K-frame, the steel sub-frame that mounts the engine and suspension. It it attached to the car in four locations by bolts through large rubber bushings. Those bushings rest in a pocket in the K-frame, and the K-frame can rust in those spots.

        Also specific to these cars, under the car in the back, we are again inspecting that trunk floor, and carefully observing the pocket of frame rails where the rear of the leaf spring mounts. This is the area that will rust away and put the leaf spring though the floor of the trunk.

        Other than these trouble spots, you are just plain looking everywhere, just like you would with any old car.
        WPC# 12304 / 1970 Plymouth Duster / 1972 Dodge Charger Rallye / 1977 Chrysler Cordoba

        www.cordobaclubusa.com

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        • #5
          Thank you for this very detailed answer!

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          • #6
            You are welcome. I hope it helps.

            While it would be obvious, and you would likely find it as part of any general inspection, the "tails" either side of the rear license plate on the trunk lid are also a classic place to find rust on these cars. Given the condition of those quarters, I would not be surprised to find rust there. It "may" have been filled or repaired before, as there don't seem to be an emblems on the trunk lid, as if it has been painted before.
            WPC# 12304 / 1970 Plymouth Duster / 1972 Dodge Charger Rallye / 1977 Chrysler Cordoba

            www.cordobaclubusa.com

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            • #7
              Hi!
              The negotiations were very tough as the seller didnt answer for a while and had some other interested persons or potential buyers.
              Yesterday he sent me some pictures and i will get more today.

              Can someone decode the rusted codes beneath the srews of the fendertag that are difficult to read? I'm not sure about them.
              Is the second in the second row C55 or G55? And what does the single "I" mean in the third row?

              Is it possible, that some things are not coded on the fendertag? Like the stripes or the wheels?
              Do you think it is optioned with intermittent wipers, power seats, door locks, windows, tilt steering column or airconditioning? Cant see this in the pics.
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              • #8
                Inside
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                • #9
                  Do you think there is some bondo under it?
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                  • #10
                    Hi Hemiescort. Dyno Dave pretty much covered it. Those picts just above here look like collision damage. Great cars to own, unique, but like any Mid-70's Mopar, it's a love labor. ( I have 4 currently). It worth buying but I'd not soak alot into the initial cost. BTW, are you on Facebook?
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                    bringin' em back ~ to the Dodge Mahal !!....

                    Where old Magnums can find a home.. :angel:

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                    • #11
                      Yes, I am on facebook and already member of the 78-79 Dodge Magnum Owners Group.

                      Are the wheels on "my" Magnum the standard steel wheels that are usually hidden by wheel covers like this?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Hemiescort View Post
                        Yes, I am on facebook and already member of the 78-79 Dodge Magnum Owners Group.

                        Are the wheels on "my" Magnum the standard steel wheels that are usually hidden by wheel covers like this?
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                        Yes, you are missing the center applique and trim ring, but yes, the rim is the base.
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                        bringin' em back ~ to the Dodge Mahal !!....

                        Where old Magnums can find a home.. :angel:

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                        • #13
                          1 (bottom) line
                          E57 360-2
                          D33 A998 trans
                          XS22 (2 dr. spec.coupe)
                          K 360-2
                          8 1978
                          R Built in Windsor
                          162687 serial #

                          Line #2
                          RF9 Augusta Green Metallic
                          DLFW Reclining leather/vinyl buckets/whilte
                          000 Upper door frame paint (?)
                          B15 Scheduled prod. date (Nov 15, 77)
                          E331142 Vehicle order #

                          Line #3
                          RF9 Augusta Green
                          V3F White vinyl top
                          I No idea, never seen this one before
                          28 radiator width
                          B12 HD front discs

                          Line #4
                          C16 console
                          G67 RH O/S remote painted racing mirror
                          G77 Dual " " " " "
                          N88 Cruise
                          N?? Can't read
                          END That's all folks!!















                          Last edited by Magnumguy; 12-07-2017, 06:42 AM.
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                          bringin' em back ~ to the Dodge Mahal !!....

                          Where old Magnums can find a home.. :angel:

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                          • #14
                            I've got new pics.

                            So I thnik it hasn't AC and tilt steering column, right?
                            But what about the intermittent wipers?
                            Whats that knob beside the radio?
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                            • #15
                              Knob like a joystick? Pass side mirror control G67
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                              bringin' em back ~ to the Dodge Mahal !!....

                              Where old Magnums can find a home.. :angel:

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